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Am going to be reinstated

by Caine in

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hello true believers.

had jc meeting.

will be reinstated next meeting.

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On the other hand, if it really is Jehovah you're there for, then the appreciation for His ways and principles will allow you to bring out the best in yourself and others around. The key is personal study, your relationship with Jehovah. Every day. If you can keep to that, you'll still get the opposition, but you'll have Jehovah on your side. And nothing can beat that. It's a matter of focusing on Jehovah's Kingdom and His will; the rest pales incomparison.

That might be true if we were talking about some of the churches of the dreaded Christendom where you are allowed to think for yourself and not be afraid of openly stating what you believe but that isn't the case with the Watchtower. No only are you expected to accept everything they teach, you are expected to peddle their ideas from door to door as truth. I don't see how God could smile down on you and back you for doing that. I agree that personal study is the key. The question is what kind of personal study. If it is personal Bible study fine, just put all the Watchtower publication to one side and read it and see what you come up with. Also you could read some books by authors like CS Lewis, OS Guinness, Mark Warren, John Stott, Francis Schaeffer to name few. Also there are hundreds of Bible commentaries you could look at to get different view points. Read something by Richard Dawkins to understand why some don't believe in God. If all the books you study come from one source, a bunch of old guys in NY who claim Christ came back in 1914 and chose them as the only means of dispensing truth then you have a problem. Where is the evidence he came back in 1914? Only in their publications. Where is the he chose them? Only in their publications. If you really believe this wouldn’t it be a good idea to go back to their publications from that time period and see what they were teaching? Isn’t it strange the Watchtower frowns on you doing this? Why do they try to cover up their past? The reason is because if you read what they wrote back then you would see that if Christ did come back then there is no way he would have chosen them. Their books and magazine from around that era are full of errors and ridiculous beliefs. Even the date they claim he returned at that time is wrong by their present teaching. Remember in 1914 they were teaching he came in 1874 back then and that 1914 was the day the world was to end. Even in the 1930s they were still teaching he came in 1874. Apparently their “eyes of understand” hadn’t kicked in yet. Anyway back to the point if you really want to get something good out of personal study then read as many points of view as possible. You can figure out for yourself whether they have something to say or not.

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Am going to be reinstated

by Caine in

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hello true believers.

had jc meeting.

will be reinstated next meeting.

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I don't understand why someone would want to go back once they realize it isn't the truth just so their friends and family will acknowledge them but some people take a long time before they can break free. But what kind of friends are these won't even allow you to have your own thoughts and beliefs? Open your mouth once and say something they don't like and the friendship is over again. Rather childish isn't it? One thing for sure you won't be alone the Kingdom Halls are full of people playing this game you just won't know who they are because they are living in fear of being found out. Suffering through all the boring talks five meeting a weak is one thing but how will you be able to go out in service and try to trick others into the same lifestyle? Be prepared for a lot more depression if you go back.

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My Bethel Experience final chapter

by new boy in

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there were other people who either killed themselfs or tried to kill themselfs while they were at "the house of god.

one person who did kill himself was richard wheelock, press room overseer ......he jumped out of a window at the watchtower farm one day.......it seemed, he was never quite the same after his wife "willy" died..she seemed to be the only one that he could relate to.......which would make sence.....because he sure couldn't relate to any of us in the press room..........he would come over to our press and say "here is the work... get in out".......then just walk away.......he was not the type of person you would really want to talk to anyway......but wouldn't it be nice if just now and then, like every year or two, they might ask you how you were doing?.........you laugh.......but its true......i asked a friend of mind who was the press operator of press # 6 which at the time was one of the three biggest presses at bethel.

he had been in the press room for 4 full years.

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Thanks for posting this Newboy. If you remember more about your experience there I hope you will post it. Also I would like to know a little more about what happens once a person leaves Bethel. What I am really interested in is why so many that have been there have similar bad experiences yet it never seems to become widely known. When I first got involved with the witnesses I remember a Bethelite returning home. I don't remember if it was for good or he was just visiting his parents. Anyway he was viewed like he was returning from the Watchtower equivalent of Oxford or Yale. Not a factory full of unhappy slave.

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My day at the hospital with Jehovah's people

by I quit! in

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i went to the hospital today.

my wife's sister has cancer they thought she was dying.

my wife and her were very close when they were children.

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I went to the hospital today. My wife's sister has cancer they thought she was dying. My wife and her were very close when they were children. She has four children of her own and they were all there. I have a pretty good relationship considering most of them are active jdubs and I'm the know "apostate". There were quite a few of their JW friends there. One of them I knew as a little girl. She went to the same hall I went to when I was a jw. Now she has teenage daughters. There were 4 or 5 JW elders in the group. I'm not even sure who they were or where they were from. Two of them introduced themselves to some of the family so I guess they didn't even know them. We shook hands and talked a little. I'm not sure why I'm writing this. The whole situation makes me sick. I hate cancer as much as I hate the Watchtower. Anyway it was very strange spending most of the day being the only non-jw in the group. My emotions really run their course when I am around them in a situation like this. I am angry because so much of the damage done to this family is done because they are in the Watchtower and I am the only one that can see it. When I see the elders there I am angry because they are being nice and leaving a good impression and I'm worried that some poor soul on the outside might see this and feel they have something good to offer. I'm angry at them because they seem like nice guys but are so freaking brainwashed they don't even know they are being screwed. I feel like telling them off and warning the other people in the waiting room about their religion. Definitely not the right time or place. Anyway it really sucked. Those of you who still pray please pray for them they really need it.

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WINNIE, if you're out there?

by Frannie Banannie in

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please don't leave.

we do care about you and want to offer our support of you and your family in what must be very difficult circumstances.. the reason i called for assistance from a forum moderator was because i was afraid my alligator mouth would overload my hippopotamus behind where you were concerned.

it does that sometimes.. frannie.

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Wonder what happened to that strong backbone she presented so well last night.

Duck Frannie!! I think someone took off their shoe and threw it at your head.

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WINNIE, if you're out there?

by Frannie Banannie in

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please don't leave.

we do care about you and want to offer our support of you and your family in what must be very difficult circumstances.. the reason i called for assistance from a forum moderator was because i was afraid my alligator mouth would overload my hippopotamus behind where you were concerned.

it does that sometimes.. frannie.

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Did I miss something? Has Winnie left already? I hope not. I liked Winnie I just didn't agree with her postition on Witnesses that post here.

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My Bethel Esperience Part 19

by new boy in

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besides almost getting mugged a couple of times.

the closest, i came to getting hurt while at bethel was in the summer in 1972, at the allentown pa district convention.

i think its name was "the divine endurance" .

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Jeff told me yesterday that they sent their other son to Bethel a year after Jimmy died

Well that's about as warped as it can get. What were these people thinking? If you didn't know Bethel was a real place you'd think it was out of a science fiction horror movie,

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My Bethel Esperience Part 19

by new boy in

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besides almost getting mugged a couple of times.

the closest, i came to getting hurt while at bethel was in the summer in 1972, at the allentown pa district convention.

i think its name was "the divine endurance" .

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Very sad. It is too bad his family didn't hear his crys for help. I would like to know if they are still dubs. I'm glad you're making this known. It might help save some poor kid from going to that horrible place. I wish every JW would read your story.

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My stepfather is in Jan 1, 2007 WT

by Mulan in

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mom gave me a copy of the jan. 1 wt today and on page 14, first paragraph, my stepfather, henry zinser is mentioned.

if anyone is interested, it's kind of a neat mention.

at the time (1943) he was a co in canada.. my parents met him in 1950 and in 1969 after my parents, divorced, he married my mother.

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Nice to hear something about a good JW who held a pretty high position. We usually hear about the bad ones here. If I remember correctly when I was a jw they didn't use the names of the people in the magazines when they wrote a story involving them.

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Active JW's on this forum

by winnie in

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having read posts over the last few months, i have come to the conclusion that there must be alot of 'active' jw's who still regularly attend meetings/field service etc.. don't you feel that by posting your many and varied topics, usually complaining/disagreeing with the wbts, that you are being hypocritical?

when you post your information, obtained sometimes in an questionable manner, doesn't it make you question your own underhanded actions?.

you converse with many on this forum who are disfellowshipped/dissasociated, yet if you knew who these ones were, face to face, you would not give them the time of day!

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How can they possibly be true to themselves, saying one thing and doing another ? If everyone worried about losing their families, then none of us would have left, and I don't need the latest gossip to convince me how wrong they are. Already came to that conclusion.

I understand what you are saying here. I probably left in a manor similar to you. Once I knew it wasn't the truth I had to get out. I couldn't fake it and had no desire to. My feeling was let the pieces fall where they may, and they did. But that was me. Everyone circumstances are different. Some people struggle a long time before they can admit it isn't the truth. Remember the Watchtower uses mind control to brainwash its followers. I don't know if you have read Diane Wilson's book on her life as a witness but it is a good one that details the mental struggle she went through to get out.